Should your CV be sent ?

This was posted on our LinkedIn Group:



It seems to be up on Close Protection World but before sending your CV we advise you to carry out some prior due diligence and we like to check where our members are going to send their cv's before doing so.

This is on CPW:

Hi guys we still have vacancies for another 100 guys and girls . Those whom have applied already no need to re-apply.

Requirements.
Up to date CV with in set mug shot, Also min 4 pages .
Firearms compentcey certificate
Min Mira FPOSI
Passport
Driving licence 
Please forward your CV to renegade11@live.co.uk.

Regards
Pete

The address is a @Live.co.uk which isn't too professional and it is quite offputtting.

Secondly it all seems a little vague "We need another 100 guys and girls"
How many do they have already? Guys and girls? surely there must be a set number of male and female operatives needed?

How many small unheard of companies have a need for hundreds of operatives like this?
Is this an army being set up to go into an African country ? :-)

The second email used is: Renegade_cv@yahoo.co.uk

Renegade Protection Services does not exist on the Companies House website.
So it means it is either lies and a fake company or that it is based offshore.

The Renegade Protection Services website was found:
http://www.renegadeprotectionservices.com

It is a website that was done very cheaply using Vistaprint, there is no company number on the website.
Can you please tell me who would do business with a company like this? ….  I smell a rat but it seems to be something very current in our industry today, or maybe I am wrong?

The CEO of Renegade Protection Serviced is called Peter Earp
The shades look very cool on his LinkedIn profile, but not cool enough to want to do business with that…



Peter Earp Security is listed on his linkedin profile, no company comes up with that search.

Personally I wouldn't send my CV to these people, but if you want to it is entirely your choice.

Take a look at their application pack on their website.
They ask you for bank details before even having chatted to them.
How weird.

It is also on the CPW FB page. Peter Wilde posted this-

Gents , This is a Genuine Advert for up to 4 tasks starting soon. The email address is temp due to the web site being updated. I have spoken to the POC regarding this . 
there is also another email address renegade_cv@yahoo.co.uk
The new email address will probably be added later in the week. 
please note : YOU MUST BE EX BRITISH FORCES ONLY !. 
If you do not have the required certificates you will not be put forward , i.e 
Firearms Competency (fullbore), 
Fposi or Mira , Sia CP . 
Passport with at least 6 months and for pages. 
This is what the Client Requested .

I fully trust PeterWilde as he is one of your members.
He is just helping this Peter Earp from Renegae Protection Services.
The only trouble is, Renegade Protection Services does not exist and the application pack asks for Bank details.

I am a bit weary of companies that don't exist and have cheap websites made with Vistaprint.

Don't get me wrong here, Peter Earp may be a great guy and the tasks he has for hundreds of operators may be genuine, but a person with a website with a company name for a company that does not exist puts me off sending a CV...

I called this guy out on CPW. The first ad he posted there said that part of the deal required completion of a course "they" ran (where have we heard that before?)

That was then taken down. He posted another one (thread name is "Contacts") and when he was asked what the company was, he avoided the issue and then when a mod asked him he announced that it was now closed.

I think your instincts are correct. It is a sad fact that if you think that a security industry job ad is suspicious that probably over 50% of the time you'd be right

P.S. Is his brother's name Wyatt?   

I had a good sniff around their website. There is a hidden site behind it. Just go here : http://www.renegadeprotectiveservices.com/home/

The contact details on that site have a phone number who's area code (321) is local to me (Melbourne, Florida). The number is registered to a Luis B Martinez from Orlando who is the only person listed on a company registration for RENEGADE PROTECTIVE SERVICES LLC which is an active company registered in the state of Florida. I have attached the annual report. As far as I can tell the company has never officially traded and I can find no bank account associated with it - Yes, you can do that shit in America :)

The phone number is a Sprint Cellphone. Credit history of the account says that Martinez has had this number since March 2011. It also says that it has been disconnected 3 times for failure to pay.

A quick background on Senor Martinez - No felonies, some misdemeanour’s, lives in a not so nice hispanic neighborhood in Orlando. Not registered as an officer of any other Florida company.

His linkedin profile is here: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-martinez/40/8a3/7bb

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Hi Space Coast,

Not the same advertiser.
Renegade Protection Services is a company that does not seem to exist.
A guy called Peter Earp is the advertiser.

Renegade Protective services that you mention are in the US.

Check both these links

http://www.renegadeprotectionservices.com

http://www.renegadeprotectiveservices.com/home/

It is the same domain. Only the US site is hidden. There is a direct connection between Earp and Martinez

I spoke with our member Peter Wilde on LinkedIn and he advised me to send an email to Peter Earp to ask him what the deal is here.

There may indeed be 4 different tasks needing hundreds of operatives, but no solid proof is available and it is very intriguing that Renegade Protection Services is not listed on UK companies house but they say on their website "our company", I had never come across a company asking for bank details on their website for all applications.

The Vistaprint logo is on the renegade website, renegade protection services ressembles greatly renegade protective services in the US.

I will let you know what Peter Earp responds, if these tasks exist, and his company details.

Best,

Ted

Ted-Pencry wrote:I spoke with our member Peter Wilde on LinkedIn and he advised me to send an email to Peter Earp to ask him what the deal is here.

There may indeed be 4 different tasks needing hundreds of operatives, but no solid proof is available and it is very intriguing that Renegade Protection Services is not listed on UK companies house but they say on their website "our company", I had never come across a company asking for bank details on their website for all applications.

The Vistaprint logo is on the renegade website, renegade protection services ressembles greatly renegade protective services in the US.

I will let you know what Peter Earp responds, if these tasks exist, and his company details.

Best,

Ted

The domain renegadeprotectionservices.com is owned by Martinez since he registered it in June 2011

Hahahaaaa. I must be dyslexic. It isn't the same domain. Pass the sauce mother, I'm getting drunk :)

Space Coast wrote:Hahahaaaa. I must be dyslexic. It isn't the same domain. Pass the sauce mother, I'm getting drunk :)

  
Renegade is owned by Vistaprint.
The person that made the website hid their details.

Regarding Peter Earp:
https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=77546248&locale=en_US&trk=tyah2&trkInfo=tarId%3A1397405951669%2Ctas%3APeter%20Earp%2Cidx%3A1-2-2

Peter Earp Managing Director +44 (0) 7557 652419
peter@renegadeprotectionservices.com

Other info:

PARALLEL CONTRACTING SERVICES LIMITED (dissolved)
10 September 2002 - 20 July 2004
Peter Allan Earp was employed as Director (DRIVER) at PARALLEL CONTRACTING SERVICES LIMITEDfrom 11 September 2002 to 20 July 2004
Company address: PARALLEL CONTRACTING SERVICES LIMITED
C/O TAXASSIST DIRECT, 21/23 CLIFTON ROAD, RUGBY, WARWICKSHIRE, CV21 3PY
Company documents: 9 - buy documents

Peter Earp used to be the director of Simple Security Solutions:

SIMPLE SECURITY SOLUTIONS (UK) LIMITED
Company Number08771281StatusActiveIncorporation Date12 November 2013 (5 months ago)Company TypePrivate Limited CompanyJurisdictionUnited KingdomRegistered Address

• UNIT 27 CENTURY BUSINESS CENTRE, CENTURY PARK, MANVERS, ROTHERHAM, SOUTH YORKSHIRE
  
• UNITED KINGDOM
  
• S63 5DA
  
• United Kingdom
  

Directors/ Officers

• KEITH ALAN MONAGHAN, director, 12 Nov 2013-
  
• inactive PETER ALLAN EARP, director, 12 Nov 2013-12 Nov 2013
  
• inactive STUART JOHNSON, director, 12 Nov 2013-12 Nov 2013
  

Registry Pagehttp://data.companieshouse.gov.uk/doc…


The Simple Security Solutions Website:
http://www.wearesecure.co.uk

Termination of appointment of director
CompanySIMPLE SECURITY SOLUTIONS (UK) LIMITEDFiling Date2013-12-02Filing TypeTermination of appointment of directorFiling CodeTM01DescriptionAPPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR PETER EARP

Peter Earp holds 0 current appointments, has resigned from 2 companies and held appointments at 1 dissolved companies. Peter is not registered as holding any current appointments. 

The above post tells us Peter Earp can't be the CEO of Renegade.

Firstly, Renegade is not listed on Companies House, secondly Peter Earp currently holds 0 appointments.

I'm busy wiping the egg from my face LOL

The domains are almost similar and I was reading as the same. I thought I was onto something :) At least I now know that Martinez is dodgy :)

It states on his profile he has been working in the UK for Renegade from June 2011 up until now.
Its all BS, Renegade does not exist, the website is new and an old one never existed, and if he claims he has been working as the CEO of Renegade in the UK for the last 2 years he is going to get himself in trouble as he currently holds 0 appointments and Renegade has never existed in the UK.

Space Coast wrote:I'm busy wiping the egg from my face LOL

The domains are almost similar and I was reading as the same. I thought I was onto something :) At least I now know that Martinez is dodgy :)

No worries mate, the only people that should wipe egg from their faces are the ones who send their CV and bank details to free email addresses without doing any prior research and due dilligence.

Email sent to Renegade:

Ted Pancri wrote:Dear Peter, 

A job ad was posted on the Close Protection Domain LinkedIn Group.
I would like more information before giving the green light to CPD members for sending their CV in to you.

A few things don't seem quite right with your company, free email addresses used, a cheap website made with Vistaprint, Bank detail requests on your application pack before even interviewing candidates.

There is no record of Renegade Protection Services on Companies house, could you please provide your company number?

It seems Renegade has never existed but your LinkedIn profile states you have been working as the CEO of Renegade in the UK since 2011 up until now.

Your details have been checked with companies house, seems you held 2 appointments in the past (1 with Simple Security Solutions), but now you currently hold 0 appointments, may I ask how you can be the CEO of Renegade in the UK if you don't hold any appointments in the UK and if Renegade does not exist in the UK?

The weirdest thing of all is that I have been on the circuit for many years, never heard of yourself or Renegade Protection Services, its very hard for the biggest companies around to land 4 tasks needing hundreds of operators and you managed to get these tasks without even existing or maybe you have only highly sensitive black ops which would explain it all?

You posted on Close Protection World and when people started asking questions you said there was no more need for operators.

Please provide me with some answers

Regards,

Ted Pancri
CPD Admin

The response from Peter Earp, quite agressive therefore I think I was right all along, DO NOT SEND YOUR CV's to this person

Peter Earp wrote:
Ted this is a new company just starting up, I have been asked to recruit personnel for contracts that are forth coming ,as you say you have never Heard of me I definitely Haven't Heard of you ,why slate some one you don't know .

As you have said my website isn't what you expect but I am sorry but my new website will be up and running by Wednesday that has been done professionally .

Guys that have sent there CVs in are happy with what I have advertised on CP World and those guys that are helping me will be working with me on these contracts.

And as for the contracts and how my contact got them has nothing to do with you or any one else .And whom sends in there CVs has nothing to do with you or anyone else .

Again I have been approached by a contractor that is out in Basra and whom I personally know . I am now going make a note of this for future reference to pass on to a solicitor if need be.

My LinkedIn was done professionally and so will be my website although I have had good feed back from my old website. Oh and by the way I have been on the circuit for  a number of years .Please do not contact my future operators or my self .


Kind regards
Pete Earp
07557652419

Some superb spelling above :-)

Close Protection Domain's response:

Thanks for your email.

You are a liar Peter Earp.

How can it be a "new company" if there isn't even a company.

Your LinkedIn profile states you have been the CEO of Renegade Protection Services since 2011 which is a lie. If the company is just starting up how could it exist in 2011? This is called lies.
You have 0 appointments as I checked on companies house, Renegade does not exist either.

Why are you recruiting without a company and asking people for their bank details?

You were working at simple security solutions and also owned another company before that.

You are falsely advertising jobs and asking for CV's when you have no right to do so. You have no company, you can't provide a company number, and you are certainly not in employment as a director.

As far as my rights go, as a forum with over 900 members, I have the right to investigate where my members send their CV's and I certainly will be posting the information about you up.

Good luck with your fake tasks and hundreds of operators, I hope someone contacts the SIA about you.

I certainly won't as I have better things to do with my time but I will be advising my members to not send you their CV's.

His reply to your email suggests to me that is is just another opportunist to be avoided like the plague.

I come across a lot of muppets like this in firearms training. You will hear a guy that you never of talking big, when you ask him how come I never heard of you, you get the answer this idiot gave you "well I never heard of you either" :) Its a meaningless answer. You can guarantee that every legitimate firearms training company in Florida knows me and I know them.

Of course this guy never heard of you, for the same reason you never heard of him. You Ted, do not associate with muppets :)

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Great discussion currently going on on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&gid=4670819&type=member&item=5860690255031607299&commentID=5861208066950729728&report%2Esuccess=8ULbKyXO6NDvmoK7o030UNOYGZKrvdhBhypZ_w8EpQrrQI-BBjkmxwkEOwBjLE28YyDIxcyEO7_TA_giuRN#commentID_5861208066950729728

They are another pathetic bunch of individuals, I was threatened with solicitors by email and threatened on LinkedIn with being put straight face to face.  hahahahahahaha

This is all tactics to try and stop the truth coming out for our members but our job as a forum is to protect our members.

Here is a screenshot from his profile (See the 2011 start date with Renegade, he shot himself in the foot as he said via email, "the company is new")

A screenshot from their application pack that can be downloaded off their website.

The discussion is not available any longer on LinkedIn as when Peter Wilde got banned from the LinkedIn Group the discussion disappeared.

:( I was just getting going about the Data Protection Act

:-)
We make a good team.  

This is the new website for Renegade Protection-

www.renegade-security.com

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
That is nearly as funny as the last one, now the fake company suddenly became Renegade Security when they used to be Renegade Protection Services!! Still no company number on the website, I am sure CPW will love their logo on the website! hahahahahahahahah

And because Space Coast Tactical spoke to them about the Data Protection Act, they put a whole paragraph on it.

I had my tech guy look at the website. It is amateur to say the least and has been created using Serif Web Plus v6 (even though they tried to hide it) a cheap and nasty WYSIWYG editor that produces non-compliant code by someone with no knowledge of web technologies.

Someone should also mention to the SIA that these dicks have redesigned their logo for them. WTF? I lost interest when I saw the IBA logo.

A quick search comes up with the person who registered the website, name/home address/telephone number! Apparently someone has designed and published the website on behalf of Renegade.

I too noticed the SIA logo SpaceCoast, it seems as though it is a `real` organisation not linked in any way to the SIA we know and love   

http://www.siaonline.org/

Sabre wrote:A quick search comes up with the person who registered the website, name/home address/telephone number! Apparently someone has designed and published the website on behalf of Renegade.

I too noticed the SIA logo SpaceCoast, it seems as though it is a `real` organisation not linked in any way to the SIA we know and love   

http://www.siaonline.org/

Even more interesting because they are not members of that organization :) You can check it on their website

I looked at the web design company's website. Hahahaaaaa what a joke. People pay money for this shit? I'm in the wrong business

I just searched for them on the `SIA` website, couldn`t find them either! I wonder if they are (not) a member of the IBA too?

The web design company is the person with the home address that can be found easily on whois.

Registry Admin ID: 
Admin Name: John Smith
Admin Organization: None
Admin Street: 19 Chatsworth Place
Admin City: Cleethorpes
Admin State/Province: North Lincolnshire
Admin Postal Code: DN35 9NG
Admin Country: GB
Admin Phone: +44.01472600620
Admin Phone Ext: 
Admin Fax: 
Admin Fax Ext: 
Admin Email: websitesmithy@gmail.com

They say they are a new company but

1/ Renegade Protection Services does not exist

2/ Peter Earp has 0 appointments, I told him he was a liar via email and got no response, what I did get was threats by his right hand man called Peter Wilde who said I would be put straight face to face for having investigated them.  :-)

3/ Renegade Protection does not exist

4/ Full check also carried out on "Renegade Security", nothing comes out except 3 dissolved companies (see below)

We can clearly say this so called company should be avoided